Russia wants to takeover part of Ukraine

wants to takeover part of

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wants to be part of not . Why? Oil. Read my comment at the bottom, its really about oil. What does say is the reason? There are many Russians that live in .   Why is this crazy that wants ? Because there are many Polish people that live in Chicago so that means this should be part of Poland? Or Florida should go to Cuba? Or Quebec should go to France? Hong Kong should go back to the English? If Putin, um I mean was consistent in its logic then half of would break apart.

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is and has been part of not . International boundaries were agreed on. It is contiguous part of . wants to take it over and I think because the USA is so focused on saving Iraqi oil, um I mean people, they turn their backs on the politics in Eastern Europe, except Moscow, um I mean . They always have. wants to occupy with warships etc,  like it holds all these countless other republics that are of economic or military interest to them. The fleet is already in and the president wants it out. The major of Moscow Yuri Luzhkov (a Putin puppet), has public declare that belongs to . is an imperialistic Czardom.

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I love the people. I love . I love culture. I am 100% Slavic in blood and live in Eastern Europe and travel to , Moscow and . But I am just telling it like I see it. Gary Kasparov one of the brightest minds in the world sees it this way too, that is no democracy. And the people are suffering because of this.  Muscovite’s who have power get rich, while the citizens get marginally better lives, just enough so they do not complain to much, however, if had true democracy and free movement of labor and capital and gave up its imperialism it could be an extremely dynamic place, not just Moscow.

is part of and should not try to take it over.

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8 Comments on Russia wants to takeover part of Ukraine»

  1. Ryan said,

    June 7, 2008at 3:07 pm

    Do you think that this is Putin’s doing or influence?

  2. markbiernat said,

    June 8, 2008at 2:05 am

    Yes of course its Putin. Ukraine wants to start shipping oil from the Middle East and Asian republics via the black sea then build a pipeline directly to Poland. This means Europe will get oil without having to go through Russia.

  3. Timo said,

    June 17, 2008at 5:20 pm

    Well there’s some good stuff in this blog.
    But I’ve gotta REAALLLY disagree on this one.

    I’m half Slav and my grandfather was from Kiev.
    Was he Ukrainian?Absolutely not.In his view the Ukrainian language was simply a Russian dialect watered down by Polish , Lithuaniuan /German invasions.
    And he was proud that Kiev was Russia’s ( or the Rus’s ) first capital.

    The Crimea , IMO , is about the fact the Ukraine has only been an independent country for only 17 years since about the 9th Century or so.Before , it was part of Russia ,occupied by others , or in the Soviet Union , or infact the region with the capital of Russia.Ukrainian identity ( probably started when the region was freed from Poland), in Russian eyes is simply Russian , with a bit of Polish etc mixed in.

    Unfortunately , the West thought that to poison relats between Muscovy and the Ukraine would destroy the Soviet Union.Well , arguably it did.Ukrainian politics , like Russian , is far from perfect.And America had a huge goal to get the Ukraine hating Moscow.

    The Ukraine and the Russian Fed suffer in all this.Personally I believe a Single Economic Space ( SES) -like the EU for the CIS happen -once again Moscow dominated.

    Vast numbers of Russians have left the Ukraine.Its poverty striken and corrupt and some of its leaders seem to take their orders direct from Washington’s agitators.Its a terrible shame because the Ukraine and the Federation share so much history ( the same country for getting on 900 ish years since the Rus’s inception) yet seem to be at odds.Dont believe everything you read in our Western press about Russia- Ukraine relats.
    Moscow and Kiev can be like two bickering siblings.But the same family nonetheless - as much as NY and LA are to America , atleast in the opinion of many.I think that the states - the Russian Federation , Belorussian , Kazakstan and the Ukraine should all join up again .Much in the same was as places such as the Altai , Siberia etc , originally joined Russia when the Ukraine rejoined
    Regards all.

  4. markbiernat said,

    June 18, 2008at 4:02 am

    @timo Since I live in Eastern Europe I have meet old cranks, that boarder on racism and ultra nationalism like your granpa and you, a few times, to say Ukrainian is a watered down version dialect, wow you are really a racist or stupid to believe that. Ok expert tell me how many German and Lithuanian words are used in Ukrainian everyday? Ukrainian has much less foreign words than English. Ukrainian by any persons way of looking at it is an Eastern Slavic language very very different than Russian. Are you saying that French is a dialect of Italian also. You just have a low IQ. Ukrainian was first. Ukraine Kievian state was first. Russia came after Ukraine, as did the language. Did you know about the Kievian state? This was very different than Russia. Germany first appeared on the map in 1870 and Italy around the same time, and yet are you saying these are not counties? There were Ukrainian states in history. Did you know know that Ukrainian not Russian was less changed as a language by Asian invasions etc. Russia has exploited Ukraine like it exploited Poland and every country it tried to “russify” and killed millions of people who resisted. Ukraine and all the people I know in Ukraine see themselves as Ukrainians. Do the Irish see themselves as English? Russia is very different then Ukraine. Kiev is Ukrainian even after Stalinist Russification… All the Ukrainians are coming from the villages to work in Kiev and slowly replacing Russian. Your thinking sounds like someone who does not believe in free right for a people have their own system and language and free movement of labor and capital. Ukraine would be better off in the EU than anything to do with Czar Putin and his exploitation of people for the glorification of Moscow. You are very foolish to think that Moscow is some friendly force to anyone but the cronies of the people in power. It is a czardom run by Putin and will exploit anything that is in Moscow’s best interest. The Russian people are wonderful but there are either the rich or poor with a weak middle class in Russia and they themselves are being help back by this imperialism and cloak and dagger Moscow rule, rather than true democracy and respect for other peoples. Ukraine is not Moscow and thank goodness it never will be. It is Ukrainian.

  5. GoodUki said,

    June 28, 2008at 5:35 pm

    Timo,
    you have been brainwashed….or should i say brainsquashed. You have shown your complete ignorance in your statements and it makes me laugh. Never trust a Ruski, I say, never! Russians tried to murder Ukraine, but nationalism will never die. Russia can’t survive on its own, so it tried to monopolize and dominate those that have inherent wealth, like Ukraine with its oil and wheat. Anyone who believes a Russian who says Russia came first, and Ukraine is nothing but a subsidiary or of the like is just an idiot!

  6. Elizabeth Symonenko said,

    July 16, 2008at 4:04 pm

    I have nothing against Russia, as long as it remembers where its borders STOP.

    Ukraine is Ukraine. It is NOT Russia….and RUS….well, that was Rus, not Russia.

    I think someone needs to brush up on their history…and they should read from sources other then Russian text books.

    SLAVA UKRAYINI!

  7. Vitaliy said,

    July 19, 2008at 9:17 pm

    Its funny how little people can know about the truth. Sure US supports Ukraine in that it is an independant nation but they only say that. I dont see the text books saying that? When it comes to the kings of Slovyan{early Ukranians} Yaroslav The wise Vladamir the Great, the textboks claim that this is early Russia. And kids in school agree cuz its wat the textbook says so they think its right. Its not! Ukraine exsisted way before Russia since the damn of early civilization. This culture age was known as Trpilskta culture. Ukraine is Ukraine, Russia is Russia, and Russia will be a lot less weaker without Ukraine because they desperatly try to get together as one nation for the sake of russia. its not gonna work becuase nationalism will always win! Long Live Ukraine….remember that for all those ignorant fools out there.

  8. markbiernat said,

    July 20, 2008at 5:47 am

    @Vitaliy Your right - see the Russian way of thinking is they just want to claim what is in their interest without respect to anything else, like a fat bear. This has been Russia for 500 years why does the world think they will change their greedy aggressive imperialism overnight. Ironically it is the Russian people who suffer as the top 1 % benefit from Russian policies.

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