Ukrainian girls
Who is this page for?
- If you have an interest in meeting Ukrainian girls
- If you are looking for a Ukrainian girl to be your bride.
Why do I know what I am talking about with regards to Ukrainian girls?
- I am an American but Ukrainian roots.
- I am living in Eastern Europe and married to a beautiful Eastern European princess.
If you want to meet a Ukrainian girl for love and marriage then this page is for you. If you are player, there are better pages for you.
What I recommend to meet Ukrainian girls
What I would recommend to meet Ukrainian girls for love is go to Ukraine. You will meet the best Ukrainian girls on a trip alone. I prefer to rent an flat rather than a hotel as the prices are better. You do not need a visa for Ukraine. You just fly there and find a flat before you go or when you get there.
That is it. Ukrainian girls will find you. They are bright educated and have good values. See Ukrainian girls want to get married and have a family. This is not what women in the USA want. American girls put a premium on money. They are not secure with their identity and often cause American men heart ache. Ukrainian girls have values and like staying by their man.
I do not recommend a Ukrainian girls tour. I think that these are neither cost effective nor the best selection of women. They are more for the organizers.
You could also try free Ukrainian mail servers or internet dating to meet Ukrainian girls.
180 responses to Ukrainian girls
Tanya - Kiev and Ukrainian dishes like Shashlik
Hi Mark,
How are you my friend?, How are things in Krakow?
I had such a positive experience i am flying to Kiev on monday, Tanya will get the bus from Ternopil to Kiev to meet me, we will stay at her friends in Kiev monday evening and take the bus back to Ternopil on tuesday, where i will spend the week.
I am looking forward to being with Tanya again and sampling some more Ukrainian peevo, shashlik and pilmeeni.
If i have come the conclusion that Tanya is the girl i want to be with long term, how long should i date her before proposing to her?, i was thinking 1 year?, also is it tradition in Ukraine to ask the parents for permission to marry their daughter?
Regards
Reggie
Ukrainian Kvas and other things in Kiev
Krakow is always fun, if you are ever here let me know.
Oh if you are in Ukraine try some Kvas it is a bread drink, they might still sell it on the street. It is not beer but something totally different.
Ukraine is really a wonderful place and the food is great to sample as mentioned. I like beet soup the best. But eggplant dishes are great as are dumplings (those are the English names for the food of course).
When in Kiev if you can go to the Cave monasteries, which are under the city. I think they have at least one “incorruptible” there. That is a body (of a monk) that has not decayed even after hundreds of years, it is attributed to the pureness of spirit. But I think maybe bacteria has not gotten in.
There are many things to see in this city depending on the time.
Now to the most important question time before marriage, it is all according to you. I would say that some people get married right away and live happily ever after. If I knew my wife as I know her now I would have asked her the first night I meet her. But I did not know her and the dating process was important to test and try my limits and commitment to her.
So in retrospect it worked out well that we waited for a few years.
It is according her age and if you all want to have children and what point you are in your life. If you have been around the block in life than you can cut the time down. If you are a person who have never really dated extend the time out.
But one year is a good time. I did not ask my wife’s parents, maybe I should have but I thought that my wife should know before her parents.
I think being alone in the world is a hard thing. I have no idea how people do it. I mean being single is hip and cool at age 24 but not latter. Being single in my opinion is one of the great hardships of life. I know some people will disagree but if you find the person you are supposed to be with, life is infinitely more sweet.
Kvas
Hi Mark,
I tried some Kvas while I was in Ukraine and thought it was very nice, I prefer pivo but thought the Kvas is good if you do not want anything with alcohol in it.
I had another great time with Tanya and met her parents and more of her friends this time so it looks very promising for our relationship, but I think I’ll fly to Warsaw next time as Wizz Air flies there from the airport 4kms from me at Preswick so it would take less time, and would be cheaper than flying to Kiev for me as the flights are all from London to Kiev and I live in Scotland and its a long drive before I even catch my flight about 8 hours drive approximately.
I managed to find trains from Warsawa Centralna and another station in Warsaw to Lvov on website pkp you mentioned, and return trains from Lvov to Warsaw so think I’ll give that a try next time, it seems that they run daily so it should be okay for me.
Also two of my friends are planning a road trip to Poland Euro 2012 next year so I’ll be joining them as they invited me along, hopefully Tanya will be able to meet me then, if she is still with me which I think she will judging from how we have got on so far.
Regards
Lee Williamson
All positive news. Warsaw to Lviv (Ukrainian transliteration) or Lvov (Polish spelling) is an easy trip. You also have bus options which are much cheaper but not as comfortable in addition to the trains. PKS is the bus website by the way. And lastly you have normal day trains to the border. Once at the Ukrainian border, it is easy to get to Lviv.
2012 is a good time for a road trip with the big soccer/football matches.
One last option I think I have mentioned it. A train to Crimea or Krym is very cheap from Lviv. Like 10 GBP for the whole 26 hour trip. If you ever wanted to go on vaction with her, it is a very exotic place that does not cost much.
Lee
Reggie is my nickname by the way, Lee is my real name.
Crimea
Hi Mark,
I have heard the Crimea is a nice place to visit and i think i’ll discuss that with Tanya next time i see her and see if she is interested in going there with me.
On my next trip im just going to book a flight to Warsaw and go to the train and bus station and see what time the next bus/train to Lvov is at and if i have a few hours to wait i’ll have a look around Warsaw and take some photos, Tanya will be able to organise which train or bus to catch for my return trip from Ukraine to Poland so should be fine.
I bought some shaslik spices from the supermarket while i was in Ternopil so i will have to give that a try soon, if i can make it half as good as Ukrainian people i will be very happy.
By the way i had a flat with a view of the lake in Ternopil and it was great, i hope i can get the same one next time as it was a very reasonable price too, Tanya’s sister Yula negotiated a better price for me.
Mark, (or anyone)
What are the cheapest lodging options in Kiev?
How is public transportation there?
Is Kiev a noisy, dirty, over-crowed kind of place?
I usually stay in hostels while travelling and I may do this again but I wanted to see if there are better options than this.
The apartment rentals online are not ‘cheap’ by any means. Cheap would be $30/USD per night or less in my book.
Thanks
Appartments are the best deal in Kiev as hotels are expensive
Kiev has brilliant public transport. I think the subway is the deepest in the world perhaps as they were back ups for bomb shelters. Kiev is not dirty or over-crowded but that is all relative, I mean it is a big city but it has many parks and walk ways. It is one if the greener cities in Europe. That being said it is a big city so cars are everywhere. Make sure you go to the Cave monasteries as I may have mentioned.
I always stayed in apartments when in Kiev. But you can certainly find a youth hostel or a flat more on the outside of the city and there are babcia’s at the train and bus station that will let you stay with them real cheap. Remember it is where the money is so it will cost more, and you know who things are in Russia and Ukraine, Moscow and Kiev are expensive and money centers compared to the villages which are small.
Ok Thanks. So everything is cheaper in Crimea I guess?
Please comment on Lviv also, thanks.
Kiev, Lviv, Crimea, Ukraine and cost and things to do
Ukrainian cost of living varies as there is a two tier cost structure. One being the expat lifestyle, that is for the average guy who has to have western standard and making Ukraine like the USA or the UK. The other tier is for off the beaten path adventurers. For example, I was in Crimea for like two weeks and pay round trip including transport and food and lodging for two people less than 300 dollars and we rocked the place with a place with WiFi and a kitchen etc.
On the other hand I know many people that pay thousands of dollars for the same trip and I question if they had as much fun. They looked mildly bored.
Let me know if you have any further questions about Lviv, Kiev or Crimea (Kyrm) in Ukraine.
http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/ this is a great cost of living calculator tool. Now these are just averages but it give one a good ideas about about how much things will cost.
But basically a cheap place in Crimea will be 25 dollars and in Lviv even 10 dollars, but you have to know how to find them with the Ukrainian or Russian language. But in Crimea and Liv everything is competitive and pricing is fair. There is a search factor.
Where to go in Crimea
I would say that Alushta and Feodosia are two towns you might stay in Yalta is nice but pricey. On the west coast there is less to do but less people, on the west coast more families and things to do. Wine is great there, I can highly recommend it. The local climate is near perfect for wine.
Simferopol is the center but you just take a local bus to the coast. Simferopol is the last place to change money or go to McDonald’s etc.
When you get off the bus locals will swarm you with offers of places to stay. I prefer to walk into the town and find a place myself as I can see it. The bathrooms are the old fashion type, just FYI. But what does it matter you will be swimming in the phosphorescent black sea most of the time and purifying your mind and soul and body in the sub tropical climate. I would not care about the room too much.
If you can check out the ancient Greek archeological sites. You can looks these up.
During the day you can hike in the mountains and in the evening swim on the beach.
If you are short on money there are a lot of shell-fish you can collect and make pasta and seafood and drink Kvas. You do not have to eat in restaurants which tend to be a little pricey.
I went there is a wad of Polish złoty and found out they only take dollars, euros or rubbles. Lets just say, we came back the skinniest of any time in our lives. We found some Poles who changed some for us and survived on little money. Basically eating at milk bars (eastern European dinners or student places) making garlic bread and seafood I caught.
Some people I met paid 5 dollars a night for a place to sleep. Many people sleep in camping areas. It all depends on your money. Of course you can spend 500 dollars a night in Yalta if you like. But I find more adventure in rustic vacations.
Lviv
Lviv is another city all together. It has an old town larger than Kraków. You can see everything you want in the old town. I think the best is bring your Camera and use your own powers of observation and after you leave you can read about what you saw. I tend to do things in reverse, that is I do not read about things until I can an unpartial impression of the place. Too much to write about in Lviv.
Kiev
Kiev the best things by the way is the whole city, but the cave monasteries and the museum of the great patriotic war is pretty good as well as the churches and the history of ancient Rus Oleg and Rurik and Yaroslavl etc.
Remember the Kievian state was in a golden age of learning and art when Western Europe was in a state of Stone knives and bearskins.
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Kiev, Crimea - Prices
Hi Admin,
God knows where you find or get the prices you quote. But I’ve been going to Crimea now for 3 years now and would say it is totally impossible for 2 people to travel from Kiev to Crimea, ( other than walking there ) find accommodation ( other than sleeping on the beach ) eat ( other than out of bins ) Drink and enjoy yourself ( other than water and watch from outside a pub or club )for 2 weeks all for $300 as you say.
I stay in Evpatoria, my woman Olga is a Cardiologist and lives local. Even she could not do this on $300 and tells me also a Westerner has no chance as prices are laid on as soon as they hear your voice. I am Scottish, and we are renowned for being mega careful with money, and I certainly am, and have been from the start 3 years ago. I quickly caught on to letting Olga carry out all price arrangements (renting fiats, rooms, finding cheap hotels etc. ) But a place to sleep for $ 3 ” come on ” get real Admin . Perhaps $300 for 1 person for 2 weeks is only JUST possible but only just. Bear in mind also that is with Crimea being about 30 – 40% cheaper than Kiev.
Kiev, Odessa and the like is definitely not any cheaper than Spain Italy, or any other place in Europe, and much dearer than Turkey, Romania and the likes. Admin I’m not having a go at you, but your miles out on prices and it gives people false hopes. Stay away from Yalta Balaclava and the likes as they are most expensive places in Crimea to go to ( due to Historical past ) West coast is much cheaper ands every bit as nice. Next year I will marry Olga and then live the rest of my life in Crimea.
Prices in Crimea and Ukraine are based on expectations
About your girlfriend from Ukraine (or Crimea she might be Russian I guess) you will be a happy man. I promise your life with a girl from Eastern Europe, and someone educated and you can share your life with will give you happiness you can not find back home.
OK now for the economic conversation, I respectfully disagree.
Your joking right? 300 dollars is what some people live on for a month in Eastern Europe. In fact it was the average in many places and in Ukraine might be above the average at least in the countryside. Since I have lived in Eastern Europe for about a decade I can tell you 300 dollars is a lot of money. One month of life on this.
OK this is how it is done. You take a train, a basic train. My friend hitchhike but we took a train, a Ukrainian train not a fancy one or International and sleep on the train. It was fun and an adventure. I think it was round trip maybe less than 30 dollars round a trip for the both of us. Then you rent not a hotel but a guest house with people. Not a big cost. Some people sleep on the beach or camp out, a lot actually. This is fun, but we got a guest house. Then you have your fill on pasta and potatoes and we caught some things in the Black Sea and cooked them. It was great. While walking though the mountains we collected while fruits. I love fishing and collecting fruit in Poland we gather all kinds of things from forest. But my wife’s family are farmers and my family in Ukraine is also.
It was one of the best trips of my life.
I think 300 might be an over estimate actually. We walked everywhere and read books on the beach and went diving and my wife cooks gourmet meals with garlic and pasta and some herbs and sea food we caught. It was very romantic in fact on another part of this website www.claritaslux.com/blog/ you can see us there in Crimea and we do not look to unhappy – it is in the left sidebar near the top the photo of us.
Olga is Russian not Ukrainian right? Different standard of expectations maybe I do not know. Ukrainians from Western Ukraine are a different level of expectations than Russian girls I have found but maybe I am totally off on this. Not anything against her at all, you hit the jackpot a beautiful doctor and from Eastern Europe, but Russians I think have a world view different?
But I am American and went to an all boys English boarding school and lived with the Brahmins in Beacon Hill Boston but life in Eastern Europe is best spend in a retro fashion rather living like a westerner, it has a sweeter quality that way.
In the west, in the USA I am very careful of anyone that has expectations of a standard. Lucky in Eastern Europe the girls do not have high expectations. It is not that they are poor it is they are humble. I mean most of my friends in Poland grew up 5 to 8 people in a room, My wife had six people in one room growing up. My family in Ukraine does not have running water and you know, they have no expectations and are happy with whatever God gives them. 300 dollars is a lot of money and with it you can give very well and have a good life.
Price is subjective based on supply and demand but mostly subjective, so I have seen people pay 40 dollars for a fancy pizza and my wife will make one with flour and water and some herbs and it is out of this world.
Look up the diamond water paradox in economics.
I also have found there is a slight inverse correlation between what I spend on vacation and my happiness. And as you know that applies to women. I recommend a nice girl from Ukraine like you are meeting than a London high expectation career woman.
It all sounds crazy but the crisis in finance in the west is all fake. It is a crisis of expectations.
It really upsets me the world is like this. So explain to me how people live on less than 300 dollars a month with buying clothes food etc, Some on 200 dollars but you can not take a trip in Ukraine for this?
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great info. thanks!
Very disappointed in Ukraine
Hi Mark. Well, I finally made it to the Ukraine… I am here now. I have to give you my honest assessment so far.
1.) The language barrier is very high and although I realize I am very far from home and cannot expect much in this department, it is prohibitive to having any serious conversation with anyone I meet.
2.) I am observing Ukrainian people and I must say they are just as rude as Americans and perhaps more so. They have a chaotic way of living.
3.) I see the same cultural elements in effect here as elsewhere in the west.
4.) Most all the girls smoke cigarettes constantly
5.) There is little or no receptivity to flirting, eye contact, etc. The girls have/walk around with a stone face without showing any emotion.
6.) I have observed that many of the females yell and talk loudly and angrily lot. I don’t have to understand what they are saying – it is written on their faces and in the tone of their voice.
I was hoping to find sweet and old-fashioned, but this is not what I am encountering. I have been to Kiev and Odessa so far. (I know you do not recommend Odessa).
Avoid primative base girls
Kiev and Odessa is just that life in the big city.
Sad faces are all over in Eastern Europe. It is nothing but cultural thing and might be connected to the dark weather, it means nothing.
The language barrier is the biggest problem. if you spoke some Ukrainian you would have a totally different experience. But even with English, you should have Hollywood status by now. I, nor any of my friend have ever had a problem. In fact my friend last night who has lived in Eastern Europe for ten years was visiting the USA and wrote me, America men have little hope in finding a decent girl in the US of A. he said for all American men he has two words.
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Kraine.
You have to get away from the primitive smoking people of Odessa. Man if you were to go to New Jersy in the USA and think this is America you are wrong, similarly in some bad section of London. Go to Trenopil and Lviv and flirt with the students. Interact with educated spiritual and intellectual people, that enjoy high culture, art etc.
ok I will keep you posted. I may go to crimea next
Yes I do not recall your age, but focus on university students and women with class, not some girl from the Jersy shore. I have never meet such highly educated people as in Eastern Europe, maybe because of the free University education system, but are so many high class girls here. Just have to look in the right place. Go to a University and see what I mean, go to an art museum or liberary or theater or church or yoga classes. I often did yoga classes on my travels.
Drew.
You would be stone faced as well if you were on $300-$400 a month. They don’t have life in Ukraine, they have survival. Don’t place any emphasis on angry voices and facial expressions, not a lot actually meant by them and these type of women are usually completely different to what you think they are. I speak only about 100 Russian words, but have managed perfectly well in Crimea for the last 3 years, and it is 10 times harder to find English speakers here than in Keiv or Odessa. Don’t flirt or make eye contact. Jyst go over and talk to them, when they hear an English voice your in BIG TIME. Smile, laugh, talk a lot.Do not bum about how much you have, or how much you make, as they don’t give a toss about that. Just be you. But if your the serious poker face type don,t expect them to smile and be all over you.
Smiling is infectious remember that. Also Crimean women are much much different than Kiev or Odessa girls. Here in Crimea you will really find the old fashioned type you seek. So go for it Drew amd do not be afraid to approach them. Speak, Smile, Make faces, Joke, even though they havn’t a clue what your saying or you what they say, they love it and soon you’ll have loads and loads of friends and women who want to know you.
I’m a 63 year old man from Scotland. Coming now 3 years to Evpatoria in Crimea. I met 3 years ago a 54 year old Cardiologist and Olga and I will marry next year. Just be ” You ” Drew. Stop to think. would you smile if you were on $300 a month. Want to see smiles then make them smile. They’re just as human as you or me, and the girls would make far better wifes than ever you’ll find in States or U.K. Believe me.
Eddie
Some good advice here and thanks for the input. You are a wise man! You know that Ukrainian girls or Russian girls are the best. I can not even tell you how happy I am you say this. There is no comparison. Your girlfriend will make you very happy and a great wife. I am thankful you leave a comment like this as I want other western guys to open their eyes about the fact they do not have to marry the girls next door in the UK or London. or USA. You are a wise man, thank you.
Forgive my departure however on economic issues, peace and love but I guess I see the world different but maybe not and maybe I do not understand you.
But I guess I see the world different a bit. I mean survival? Do the Amish just survive?
Do not take the Westerns world so serious. In eastern Europe I read. Books actually and star gaze and take picnics etc, something I had less time for in the USA. I have lived here in Eastern Europe with a modest life for almost a decade and life has never been sweeter. I think there are a lot of really messed up people in the West, getting involved in all kinds of things and depressed. I live in Poland and see a lot of people who find trust and faith in God not money or material values and this is their happiness. So survival a matter of perspective.
But your advice is right on about women. Just go up and flirt with them.
I am curious you have lived in Ukraine for 3 years? This is great. I love Ukraine. It is one of my favorite places on earth. Where will you guys live?
Economic standard on vacation in Ukraine
This is a problem I have often pondered in my mind. That is, how much I should spend on vacation. Incrementally everyone is always temped to get the next level of room, meal etc. However, scarcity is the fundamental problem of economics and budgets restrain us.
But if I were to go to a CIS country like Ukraine I would not have the same level of expectation if I were ever in London, which I have not been. If I were to go to India, I would expect my experience to be different than if I were to go to Denmark. In India or Ukraine I would expect a more rustic vacation but not less refreshing.
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